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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;"><i>the only known photo of her</i></span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;"><i>(© Chronik der Mauer)</i></span></td><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><br /></td></tr>
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<b>Hildegard Trabant</b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12.0pt;"><br /><i>the same photograph, colorized</i></span></div>
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<span style="border: none 1.0pt; color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt; padding: 0in;">The lady in this photograph is Hildegard Trabant (née Pohl). She was born on June 12, 1927, in Berlin, and raised there. Her life was seemingly a good one; she joined the Socialist Unity Party of the new German Democratic Republic in 1949, when both were founded. In 1954, she married an East German People's Police officer employed in the passport and registration division. They lived in Berlin O 34 (later 1020 Berlin) on Tilsiter Straße 64 -- which is today, Richard-Sorge-Straße 64, near Strausberger Platz; this area featured the very newest apartment complexes at the time, which would be an extreme luxury in post-war Berlin. Possibly facilitating their residence there, she was employed in a managerial capacity at a communal apartment management organization. Life was seemingly very good for Frau Trabant, and she seemingly had little reason to attempt to flee the new communist republic. Instead, at 37, she attempted to join the thousands that did just that, and joined at least 139 other victims of the Berlin Wall that was mortally wounded while attempting to escape.</span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">The conclusions and theories that I am presenting here are based on what has been published about her at <span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.chronik-der-mauer.de/index.php/de/Start/Detail/id/1453476/page/8" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: purple; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Chronik der Mauer</span></b></a><span style="background: white; color: blue;"> and </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildegard_Trabant" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: purple; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Wikipedia</span></b></a><span style="background: white; color: blue;">, Frau Trabant's Stasi file, a copy of which I obtained from the Stasi Records Agency (BStU) in Berlin-Mitte, and the files resulting from the 1997 investigation of Frau Trabant's death by the Investigating Agency for Governmental and Party Crimes (ZERV).</span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Of the at least 140 Berlin Wall victims, Frau Trabant's saga moves me the most, because she was also in a domestic violence situation (something that I have experienced in my life). Which fully explains why she attempted to flee a seemingly excellent life on that Tuesday evening, August 18, 1964. She was shot at 6:50 PM, in almost broad daylight (sunset was 7:25 PM that day), with a 3/4 (81%) waxing gibbous moon almost overhead. The day had been warmer than those previous, 26 Celsius, but with the first rain, however slight, in several days (3 mm), and a falling barometric pressure (29.32) with 76% relative humidity, it was not exactly a beautiful and sunny day in Berlin. She was taken to the Krankenhaus der Volkspolizei (now the Bundeswehr Krankenhaus), 3 kilometers away, near the Invaliden Friedhof, where she died an hour later. The Stasi quietly handled her cremation, and subsequent burial on September 23, 1964, at the Frieden-Himmelfahrt Cemetery (now the Evangelischer Friedhof Nordend), north of Pankow, in Niederschönhausen. Her widower was not allowed to talk about the exact circumstances of her death.</span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">"Murder" is the only way to describe Frau Trabant's death. She was deliberately shot in the back. Efforts were made to censor the name of the murderer, but if you compare the article and the attached map (Skizze) of the scene (the link to which is only available at the German version of Frau Trabant's </span><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://www.chronik-der-mauer.de/index.php/de/Start/Detail/id/593926/page/6" target="_blank"><b><span style="color: purple; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">Chronik der Mauer</span></b></a><span style="color: blue;"> page), they missed one little detail.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It is probable that her murderer's name was Kurt Renner. 20 years old at the time, he would (as of this 2014 writing) be 70 today if he is still with us. I can't help but wonder; what kind of a man shoots an unarmed woman in the back from a distance as she is trying to run away? Did he think he was dove hunting? <i>How I'd love to spit some Levi Garrett in that man's eyes!</i> The Stasi goal was to keep this murder a secret; they did a good job. The murder of Frau Trabant went completely unnoticed until the applicable Stasi files from 1964 were given to the German Federal Judiciary in 1990. Ultimately, the murderer was convicted of manslaughter, and given a 21-month suspended sentence <i>(what a joke!)</i>.</span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">I have been in contact with the cemetery "Friedhof Nordend". They have confirmed that Frau Trabant was buried in a "linear grave", meaning, a grave which expired after the lawful regulated 20 years of resting allowed under GDR law without becoming a family grave, meaning the family continues to maintain, or another family member is buried more recently there. This period of resting "expired" in 1984, and this particular section of the cemetery was rearranged. Her urn is still there, like all urns buried there, but it's now under another grave number, and under another name on the tombstone. Previously, her grave number was UH Him - 234a. The "new" grave number is UH Him - B102. This has been described to me as "Urnenhain Himmelfahrt", a beautiful urn grove, which Frau Trabant certainly deserved. During the GDR era, unlike with Ida Siekmann, it was not possible to remember Frau Trabant as a Maueropfer, because in the GDR, there were no victims of the Berlin Wall. This adds to why she is seemingly so conveniently forgotten in history; the Soviet-puppet GDR regime and its security forces wanted to literally bury her and all evidence of her, then wash their hands of her. This contrasts with Frau Siekmann's situation, which occurred on the FRG side of the Berlin Wall; her grave was always maintained, even after the "resting period" (which was 25 years), because her grave was considered to be of historical value. </span>
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<b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">of the </span></b><b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">"Black </span></b><b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">Triangle" </span></b><b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">in front of the flat surfaced building on the left.</span></b><br />
<b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">An Aldi stands today, </span></b><b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">to the </span></b><b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">left (northeast) of this</span></b><b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;"> building. </span></b><br />
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<span style="background: white; color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14pt;"><b><span style="color: blue;"><span style="color: blue;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">Behmbrücke (previously Helmut-Just-Brücke) in 1990,</span></span></span></b></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">1) <u>Does anyone know of a picture of Frau Trabant's grave when it was still marked as her grave? Or, was her grave ever marked?</u> Because the Stasi buried her quickly and quietly, and because the Stasi prohibited her widower from speaking of the circumstances of her death, it is possible that her grave was never marked.</span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"> </span></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">3) At the time of her death, one of the items in her immediate possession was a postcard from "Günter P", dated September 12, 1963 (almost one year prior). <u>Who was Günter P? A relative, acquaintance, colleague, or "another man"?</u></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">18 Aug 1964, 6:53 PM</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="font-size: 14pt;">6) </span><span style="font-size: large;">Additional reading, "The GDR Border Troops' Report (about the escape attempt and the shooting).<span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";">9</span>) More additional reading: The Search for Hildegard Trabant's Father, </span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><a href="http://hildisvater.blogspot.com/">http<span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";">:/</span>/hildisvater.blogspot.com</a> .</span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"> </span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="font-family: "times new roman" , "serif";"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">10) Phone book anomaly. </span></span><span style="font-size: large;"><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">The 1960 and 1963 East Berlin telephone books do lot list a "Trabant" on Tilsiter </span></span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Straße; only a "Heinz Trabant", 2 kilometers away, on Kniprode</span></span></span></span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">straße (also in Friedrichshain, in adjacent NO18)</span></span></span></span>, and "Ludwig Trabant" 9 kilometers away, on Fontanestraße, in Oberschöneweide.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Frau Trabant was murdered in August 1964. Presumably before the 1965 telephone book was published. This is where it gets interesting.</span></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Under "Trabant", just like in 1960 and 1963, Heinz and Ludwig are still there, same addresses. But unlike in 1960 and 1963, there is now, in 1965, a listing for "Hildegard Trabandt"! Slightly different spelling (with a 'd'). This listing is quite a distance away from Tilsiter </span></span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Straße; 14 kilometers, on Pilgramer </span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Straße, in Mahlsdorf, </span></span></span></span></span></span>the very outskirts or suburbs of East Berlin. And this Hildegard would be in the phone book through 1975; with the 1979 printing, she seems to have disappeared.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><br />
<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><br /></span></span></span></span></span></span><u style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , serif; font-size: 14pt;"><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 14.0pt;">Was this 1965 listing, shortly after the murder at the Gleimviertel in August 1964, a truly legitimate listing for a real person by the name of Hildegard Trabandt, not to be confused the the Maueropfer Hildegard Trabant, or, was this part of a Stasi lie?</span></span></span></span></span></span></u><br />
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<b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">1960 East Berlin Phone Book</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">1963 East Berlin Phone Book</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">1965 East Berlin Phone Book</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">1969 East Berlin Phone Book</span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times new roman" , "serif"; font-size: 12pt;">1975 East Berlin Phone Book</span></b><br />
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